It’s good-bye time for 2020. This was a year filled with events. Good and bad and unexpected. Everything was thrown into the mix.

In this episode we reflect on what happened in our author lives in 2020 and on the many exciting things to come for the Strategic Authorpreneur Podcast in 2021. We talk about the podcast’s updated format, the plan for the new website, the brand new monthly report and much, much more!

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Transcript for Strategic Authorpreneur Season 1 Wrap Up: What’s Coming in 2021

Crystal Hunt: Hey there, strategic authorpreneurs. I’m Crystal Hunt.

Michele Amitrani: And I’m Michele Amitrani. We’re here to help you save time, money and energy as you level up your writing career.

Crystal Hunt: All right. On today’s podcast, it is a little bonus holiday episode, and we are not doing a formal interview, we don’t have a whole whack of content planned for you. You’ve got enough on your plate over the next couple of weeks in the planning for next year and having your holiday in whatever format that is. And so we are going to do a little catch-up the equivalent of a holiday party and just yeah, basically let you know where we’re at, talk about some of the exciting things to come in 2021. I don’t know about you Michele, but I am excited to see the back of 2020.

There have been some fun things and some not so and fun things and quite a mixture of stuff going on. I’m curious what have you been up to since our last episode? It’s been a couple of weeks. So how have you been doing?

What has happened since the last episode?

Michele Amitrani: Many, many things. And just to attach myself to what you said about 2020, there are not so good things, but also very good things. I count them as one of them, the SAP episodes and the fact that the podcast was live. So there are things that balance out. So you have to balance, good things, bad things. I think it’s part of the deal of life if you will. If you allow me to be a bit philosophical. But just in the past couple of weeks, actually a lot happened I was trying and I actually succeed in publishing three things in a matter of weeks. The last thing that I published was Bringer of Fire, which is the second mythological fantasy after Soul of Stone.

And it went actually better than I expected. So that got me fired up. But I also know that you did something on a way bigger scale and I would like to know maybe a bit more about that because you are very happy and I think you should share that happiness with the other people that are listening to us.

And then I’ve been also doing some pre-planning for 2021, both in my Italian front and the English front. So it’s beautiful to have two different paths and so that basically means double the effort, double the things that you need to do, but also double the excitement. So I’m a double excited to record this episode because I can get to talk to you a bit about that.

And also I wanted to show you what I’ve been basically doing in the last couple of weeks this is the cover of Bringer of Fire on my cell phone. And I’m proud of it. I’m actually very proud of it because Crystal helped me make that happen. And she was one of the first people seeing it. And, I don’t know, I see and I feel this book to be like the cherry a very big cake. We spoke about good things of 2020, and I think the amount of words that I was able to put in the paper and actually to release stories was unprecedented. I’ve never did something like that before. And that cover reminds me just that the cherry on the cake has been put and now I get to eat it.

If you are interested in any ways in mythological fantasy, which is a super niche kind of stuff, but that I’m enjoying writing and I’ve been enjoying writing for the past 2020, you can check it. As you know I’m not very good at the self promoting, but we’re going to put the link somewhere on the website.

Now I want to know what Crystal Hunt has been up to. She has been doing several different things and two weeks are a very long span of time for us to know what happened in your world. So take it from me.

Crystal Hunt: All right. I have been up to all of the things. This is the one of my favourite times of year, and it always feels like the energy is in renewal mode.

There’s a lot of wrapping up of things. I usually get a big burst of motivation where I just want to finish all the old projects and start shiny and new in January. And there’s … today’s the solstice when we’re recording this, so happy solstice, which is one of my favorite holidays in the year.

And I also love the break time that happens over the Christmas vacation and my birthday comes really soon after that. And I usually do my kind of annual plannings somewhere between December 15th and January 18th. And then I set my big personal and writing goals that start on my birthday. So usually mid January is when I switch gears and start fresh with stuff.

Part of the wrapping up is that Eileen Cook and I have been writing a book called Full Time Author, which is one of the Creative Academy guides for writers, and it is basically a career Bible in the sense that it started as an overview of how you could build a successful writing career that you loved over time, something that was sustainable and you could really keep going and it’s a mesh of traditional and indy stuff so that you can mix up those elements, whatever way you want and it got big, it turned into a bigger project, which makes sense because your career is a big deal and there’s so many different things to consider.

And so we really wanted it to be a one-stop shop for all of that kind of information.

So something that you could use to coach you through making an original business plan, and then something you might come back to year after year as part of your planning process and something that has a section on what you do when things go wrong, that you can consult when stuff goes awry along the way as it inevitably will.

And so one of the things that goes with that book is for myself I was making it started off as a single spreadsheet for tracking goals and accomplishments and all of that. And what it turned into was basically a business management system in spreadsheet format. And it is now this uber resource with all these different tabs that help you plan your production stuff and track your words and do your marketing things and do the business management stuff, keep track of your products and assets all in one place.

Cause I realized as I was doing my planning, I’m making the shift to full-time author and I’m shifting from a business focus on non-fiction books for the last two years as we were writing and growing our non-fiction guide series. I’m switching back to my fiction, which I’ve been sadly ignoring for the last year and a half or so as we went all in on the nonfiction.

So it’s a huge kind of career reboot for me. And I’m hoping to, take the level I’ve built two and level up with a nice layer of the non-fiction stuff on top of that. So to that end, I’ve been working on my own business plan for 2021, including revamping and re-releasing some of my older titles that need to be available in some new formats now.

So some of the kids’ book stuff, some of the nonfiction things that I did way back when, and I’m also doing that with my fiction. Because a lot of my stuff is holiday based, a lot of my Rivers End romances are Christmas romances or holiday romances or new years like that time of year, that this is my big push time.

So I organized a bunch of promos I had a Free Booksy run today, actually, and it’s always fun to just keep an eye on things and inject a little bit of life back into that. And for me, this is the time of year when things creep up on the charts and I have a little bit of fun seeing the results of the hard work from the year before tend to collide in one piece.

So I have been having a blast today, just watching the numbers tick up on the dashboard and the page reads and the sales and all of those things. My holiday season tends to fund a large part of my growth for the coming year. So it has been nice to revitalize all of that with a bit of attention and energy.

And I’m really looking forward to switching gears in the new year. Now part of the process of planning for next year is reflecting back a little bit on this year. So one of the things we wanted to dive into for today was just a little bit of a discussion about what are some of our highlights from 2020 that we want to acknowledge celebrate celebration is a big thing for us and just make sure that we are very aware of the things we did accomplish in this past year before we go leaping ahead to what we’re going to tackle next year. So Michele what are some of your most proud accomplishments this year? Both in the writing and the podcast side of things, you can include that as well.

Wins from 2020

Michele Amitrani: I think like one of the most important things is that we started this podcast, basically, not really knowing each other, like we knew some things and we said that we were professional enough to hold a conversation between each other, but I didn’t really know who Crystal Hunt was.

I think at the end of this year I know you just a bit better. I know just some inside stories that make me more comfortable in knowing or in believing to know that I know more of the person behind the screen because we’ve been watching each other through the scream a lot, thanks to 2020.

And so I think the confidence that comes with that, so before you’re like I’m not sure exactly how this is going to play out. Not even sure if I’m going to like that person or if this kind of appointment is going to be consistent, if everything is going to fall apart, I think we should stop one second and acknowledge that me and you worked together and we did it consistently and this is now let’s say episode 42, even though it’s not really an episode in in the tier, but it is an accomplishment then it’s also, I think we explore each other a bit better. And again it was just an amazing, awesome opportunity to build a friendship. Let’s call it like that.

So the podcast, I think every single episode that we recorded was more professional and more in-depth and I think more valuable because of this relationship that blossomed both professionally but I think also personally, so if you guys sees us and you see us smiling saying some inside joke and stuff, we mean it like, it’s not like fake and that’s one of the biggest reason why we wanted you to see all the, in between quotes, all the f**ucked up we did at the end of each episode. It’s because it’s real and it’s because that’s part of who we are. And when we refer to the podcast as sappy it’s because there is that sapness component in the podcast.

So I think that’s number one the starting of a friendship, but that also made this podcast more three dimensional. So not something that you will see and it’ aseptic. There’s our personality, it’s our work. This is our job. We had fun making something professional. That’s basically what I’m hinting at.

And the second thing is, I think it worked both for you, Crystal, and for me, it’s accountability. Having to meet each and every week or most of the weeks, anyways of the year to be confronted to the camera and to report our achievements and stuff, did something to our brains. And let us acknowledge, that, okay: was one week ago, I need to present something else this week, because that was the past. And we don’t want to be chained to the past too much. So it was like a path that led to our growth. And today we’re going to talk about what kind of things we have in mind for the next season. But I think all of that came out as the beginning of the journey.

We had no idea where we were going now with 41 episodes plus this under our belt we actually know a bit more of the nature of the podcast itself and we know a lot more about ourselves as authorpreneurs. Which was the most important thing that I think we could achieve in this year, it’s to explore ourselves to the feedback that we got also by our audience, but also to the feedback we got from our guests, we invited so many people, we learn so many things.

So I think this is the second most important takeaway from this podcast is: learning also how this podcast changed us and made ourselves a bit more accountable. I think the third equally important thing on this top three, if you want, it is that aside of consistency and the fact that we explore and we learn ourselves a bit better, we also, saw on the horizon that light and saw that this thing that we are building it’s actually possible and can be doubled or made three times as much, four times as much in the future. And you can’t do that if you don’t have a beginning.

I love the one of the sentences that Sam Weibe, one of the guests that we had, said about writing, and I think it can summarize everything we did in the podcast this year, but also a part of what we did in our author life, and he said: “You don’t know how to write an ending until you write an ending.”

I think you can apply that sentence to so many different things. You don’t know how to publish a podcast until you don’t publish a podcast. You don’t know how to start an authorpreneur career until you don’t start that authorpreneurial career. So I think the third point that I wanted to underline is the mindset.

These podcasts in a way or another changed our mindset, both mine, and I’m sure also Crystal’s. But I also want to know if Crystal has three or more points that she wants to bounce off for you guys. And what do you think this 2020 SAP podcast and also your author life brought to you?

Crystal Hunt: I think highlighting each other’s accomplishments when we forget to say them as important and something that we do very well.

And I’m going to bounce back to you before we move on, because you did not talk about your 12 by 20 challenge at all. I’m just gonna throw that spotlight right back on you until you talk about that.

Michele Amitrani: Yeah. One of the things I did not learn in 2020 is to acknowledge a bit more of what I was able to do.

So when, today I mentioned Bringer of Fire, actually I had to force myself to do it because part of my mind was like, this is advertisement: bad thing. Not bad. It’s good, but yeah, this is important. This is actually a challenge that back in January, In one of our coaching session, I was talking to Crystal and I was like this might sound crazy, but like just this feeling that I would be a better author by the end of 2020 if somehow I can write a story every month, this year. And by ‘story’, I meant flash fiction. Because I completely couldn’t fathom the idea of writing something longer than that.

So a few hundred words, but consistently doing it. And to be honest I think from what I thought might have been something that I would not have been able to achieve sprouted a lot of possibilities. And so my 12 by 20 challenge, which was just to write a story, doesn’t matter, the length, once every single month, sprouted into the beginning of my new, authorpreneur journey, because now three of those stories are published and I actually made money out of them. So that was not planned, that was not part of the picture. That was not what I wanted to do, but that showed me that when I shut up and I started sitting and writing the words just flew. And I was able to write more than 12 stories now, and most of them are actually long works that I can use as product and sell to the public.

So I think it’s good that Crystal reminded me to mention this challenge because I’ve never done something like that. Crystal had her version of a challenge although it was 40 things by her 40th birthday. And I actually didn’t really know that challenge until she told me and I found it weird, and at the same time interesting that we had a similar idea that speaks volume on the kind of mindset we both have. I think it’s very similar on that regard. We are very good when we are challenged, better when we’re challenged by ourselves. Because if you ask Crystal, ask her to do anything and she was shut down, would not do that.

Ask her, she knows that, homework and stuff, that’s one of the inside story that I learned. You can say anything to her, for example, do your homework and at that moment she would stop and not do any homework, but if you give her a challenge or if you give her a partner and you say, okay, now I’m accountable and then she will write the heck out of anything she needs to write. And I think that the book, you mentioned Crystal, Full Time Author, It’s a proof of that. If you didn’t do that you would have Eileen chasing you. But you knew, you didn’t need that kind of accountability because your mindset is framed in that way.

And so you wrote way more than you expected. So that book was supposed to be like 30,000 words, 40,000 words? I’m not going to say how many words it is, but I’ve read it in five days because it was very good, it was awesome, but it’s not 30,000 words. It’s way more. I thank you, Crystal for giving me back the word and I do appreciate the fact that I could tell you that was a good opportunity. The 12 by 20 challenge for me to really level up.

And I think it reminds us that the moment in which we put the writing to our priority, we really can make stuff happen. So that was it for me, hopefully I didn’t forget anything important.

And I pass the ball back to you.

Crystal Hunt: Yeah, one of my favourite things from this year has actually been watching. If you’re on YouTube, you can see there’s a little board in the background, a corkboard behind Michele, and there’s a coloured post-it note for each of the stories as it goes up and then different colours as they’re published in different languages.

And so it is a really cool visual progress tracker and I’ve been having a great time this year, watching new things appear on that board and also being able to celebrate as shiny, fun, exciting things happen. And it is more fun to share accomplishments with friends and to have somebody who cheers you on and is excited when cool things happened.

I am definitely very proud of all the progress you have made this year. And it is really cool to see all that hard work starting to pay off and the leveling up of the covers and the totally digging into the mailing list and embracing the patterns and habits of sitting down daily and committing that time and, the sacrifices we make and the changes we make to our daily lives in order to go after a dream that we have, I think it’s really inspirational for people to see that as much as it is to be living inside of it.

So it is really fun that has been one of my highlights this year is watching all that progress take place. There you go there’s my proud mom moment and I really do love the sort of mutual challenge, but not in a competitive way, just in terms of seeing what’s possible and then figuring out how to adapt that.

And yes, my rebel personality definitely gets in the way if other people challenge me to stuff or tell me, I have to do a thing, my instant reaction is: you can’t make me do that. So there’s an interesting combination of sort of internal motivation and also the accountability that comes from publicly committing to your own goals and having other people be able to hold you accountable to that. So definitely excited about where that’s going to go. I was not sure at the start of this podcast if I was going to be able to pull off doing anything every week, aside from my office hours in the Creative Academy, there’s nothing I do with as much regularity.

So I’m usually all over the map and my schedule is constantly changing and flexing and my calendar is a living, breathing thing on a weekly basis, sometimes daily basis. So it has been an interesting adventure to show up every single week and commit this time and to see how people responded and what is of interest to other people.

And I think just helping us clarify our thoughts in different areas, there’s nothing that gets you to a place of focus, clarity, and forces you to research and learn and make sure information’s up to date more than actually sharing or teaching it does. And so for me, my big accomplishments this year, I realized that I have taught I think 50 different master classes over the course of 2020 different workshops for different organizations online, conferences that I presented at, and then masterclass workshops that I did inside the Creative Academy.

So that is a huge amount of knowledge to take out of my brain and put into packaged format and then each of our podcast episodes was in its own way, another one of those. So that is almost a hundred … over a hundred hours of recorded knowledge download. So that feels very good and especially in the midst of the chaos of what was 2020, nothing really looks the way we thought it was going to this year.

So that has been an interesting adventure of just maintaining balance in the middle of all that and I think the other thing I’m really excited about is having fully made the commitment to shifting my life in the direction of full-time creative, giving up my consulting company, which has been a cornerstone of my identity.

I’m a health psychologist by background and I really enjoyed my work it was super creative. It’s a combination of communication stuff and creativity and business and technology and that’s my happy place, one of the books I was reading this year, and I cannot for the life of me remember which one, because I read all the things behind me on the shelf, was to not get trapped in your zone of excellence. I think it’s… we get really good at something and we’re very qualified in that area and we get comfortable and we love knowing the answer to any question people can ask us about that.

So for me I have been firmly swimming in my zone of excellence for the last year, I mean after 15 years in the indie publishing world and working with all of this stuff, I do feel confident, but it’s time to push a little further and see if I can’t break those boundaries in another area. So for me, I’m totally fired up about that.

I did managed to publish one and almost two, it’ll be the second nonfiction book in the past year. So that’s exciting and I am really looking forward to some of the stuff we’re going to tackle next year. And I guess we can ease into what we’re going to switch up next year. And one of the things is that we’re actually gonna change our format a little bit in the podcast, so we’re always on at our audience and ourselves to check the data and check ourselves and see what’s fun and exciting.

We’re going to have some shifts and some changes in the new year, and we are totally committed to still bringing you weekly episodes for most of the year. Although we are going to be very balanced writerly folk, and we are booking in little breaks in between each kind of mini season of the podcast for next year. And that also gives you a chance to catch up on any episodes you’ve missed in between. So that will be a nice format to experiment with and will give us the time and space to make sure that we are still moving our own launches forward and doing all that stuff.

And I think there’s another exciting shift and change in format. Do you want to talk about that a little bit Michele?

Changes that are coming in the new season

Michele Amitrani: So there are a number of things that are going to be different. One of the things that gets us a bit more excited is that the format of the podcast is going to slightly change. Up to now you’ve seen on the YouTube, our lovely faces, and we decided that we just wanted to shift from the video a bit more on the audio side. We’re going to make content that is a bit more focused on subjects that we know you guys are going to be very benefiting from. So if you’re not seeing our faces anymore, that’s a strategic choice. And we did that because we want to make the format as much as possible, more enjoyable and easy for you to listen to and to absorb.

Now YouTube, the YouTube channel is still going to be live and alive. But we’re just focusing so much more on the content itself and in providing as much value as we can. One of the new things that we’re also going to do is some report on our publishing world so that we can get you to get a bit more excited about our journey.

And I think that’s very important for us because transparency as also always been something that we were big at. And I think sharing that path with you I think makes you also part of our journey a bit more. And as always, we’re super excited to know what you think about that.

So if you have questions or concerns, you can still comment, you can still send us emails, every single feedback we got, even feedback that comes from the dreaded curious jar, or just question and stuff, we implemented and used it. You will be surprised of the amount of time. I think about the curious jar questions.

And there are some that were pretty profound and informed me on the way I want to talk also to you. So I think these are the things that get me a lot of excitement inside me, get me excited, but there are also other things that we’re going to slightly Up level, if you wish. And I want Crystal to be the harbinger of those updates.

Crystal Hunt: All right. So one of the things by moving to an all audio format, one of the reasons I’m so excited about this is because it lets us throw all of our energy into the quality of the audio production on the technical side as well, which means we aren’t balancing what makes for a good background versus what would be the best sound quality.

And we have a few fun, little new tools in our toolbox that we get to engage for future episodes. So I’m really excited to hear from all of you once the first episode of 2020 does Whoa, wait … Once the first episode of 2021 goes live, no time travel, no Groundhog day, we are going forward. Once that episode goes live, I want to hear what you think of the new audio quality. We have a few fun tricks to try. So we’re pretty excited about rolling that out.

And I think the progress reports, what I’m really excited about there is the fact that you, I think there’s so much focus right now on six figure author and making all the money and, yes. We want this to be a smart author business, and yes, it’s amazing when you get to that stage of being a six-figure author, but that’s not the goal of everybody. Some people just want to make a comfortable living and it doesn’t have to be six figures necessarily.

And I think the other piece is that. A lot of times when you’re talking to authors at those later stages of their careers, when everything is super established and they’ve got it all figured out that can be very inspirational, but it does leave you with gaps. And I think before we’ve talked about the draw the rest of the f****ng owl problem on the podcast, which is basically, how do you draw an owl? You draw. An oval for the body and a circle for the head, and then you draw the rest of the f****ng owl.

And I feel like a lot of those six figure author focus are super interesting and helpful, and you can learn bits and pieces of things, but how do you get through the first few stages, right? How do you go from zero to three figures or four figures or five figures? And there’s a lot of levels before you hit that last one.

So for us, I think sharing some of what’s going on in the backend, as we level up to those four and five figure areas for ourselves we can give you glimpses at a couple of different stages of author development and give you some hits and some peaks into the data of what that looks like.

And as we focus in, on upleveling areas of our own author businesses, you will get the ideas of what did we do, what worked, what didn’t work, what worked because we have different genres and we write a different lengths and we write in really different ways and we’re gonna try some wide publishing this year for both of us.

So that’s going to be a whole other, interesting adventure. Being able to compare some data from wide and exclusive as well. So that will be really fun to dig into those different things. So I’m super stoked about the progress reports side of things. And the other thing we’re going to up level is the website.

So one of my plans for 2020, which got tossed in the dumpster fire of what’s going on, was to actually, I’ll be sharing some of my knowledge in the form of articles and things. And so we have a blog that’s built into the backend of the strategic authorpreneur website, which has not been active, and we are going to hit the activate button on that and also do a bit of a site redesign to help you find the most up-to-date content, the easiest and to make sure it’s all fun to look at and interact with. And we have a whole bunch of resources coming your way as well to support some of that stuff. And so we are over the next few weeks doing a complete redesign to go with our relaunch. Podcast all the time is going to be fantastic.

We are really looking forward to 2020 one’s production schedule. We booked our first six months of times and got it into our calendars. And we, I think are both very excited to see what year two brings to us. Now, one thing I hope we don’t have to lose because I love it, even though it makes my co-host cringe whenever I pop it up on the screen is our curious jar, because I think the random questions are part of what has made it so interesting to get to know each other. And what is interesting is how often the questions are totally appropriate for whatever we were talking about that day. You can see they’re all different.

They fall out. Each one is a different colour. And I’m going to pick one, Michele, cause we need to wrap 2020 with a question from the curious jar. Tell me when to stop.

What is a historical time you would want to spend a day in? And how about a year?

Michele Amitrani: Keep going. I want to see you really mixing this last time. I want to give it as much love as you, and now you’re going to stop.

Crystal Hunt: Okay. It is a blue one. Okay. Interesting. What is a historical time you would want to spend a day in? And how about a year? So what time in history would you like to spend a day or a year?

Michele Amitrani: That’s interesting. One day and one year, right? Okay. So probably one day in The Roman Empire. I want to be in Rome and spend one day there and see, because that’s basically where my culture and heritage comes from.

And although we have history and we have books, I was always fascinated by that time period. Second close time period, if I didn’t choose the Roman empire would be probably ancient Greece, maybe Athens or Thebes, or maybe Sparta. I just went to Rome because I’m from Rome and I thought you might’ve been interested in seeing the empire at his full height. And that was basically the epicenter and the super power of the Western world at that time.

And it seems that basically they had everything except for electricity. So they have way to pump water, they way to store food and stuff. I just found amazing that without the technology we have, they were able to build the cities that contain 10 of thousands of people. And I’ve always been a history geek, and but I don’t say one year, because I don’t know if I would survive one year in that particular time period.

What I would like instead of spending one year in Rome, because I just want to be a tourist, a temporal tourist in Rome, just for a day to get a feeling of it. But regarding the one year living, yeah.

Probably to be interesting for me to see, the only thing that comes to mind is like when the Englishmen settled in North America, how was it like to live the life of the settler? The person that really has completely nothing and you have to invent everything out of zero. And then from out of that, they basically build the most powerful nations of our time, so the United States of America. Canada too. I think it’s, it will be very interesting because we had the same problem that they add. So starting from scratch and then building up the nation and I don’t know how a person would do that really building from scratch and new nation culture, heritage, everything like that.

So probably I would be interested in spending one year like that, because I think if you know how to build a civilization from the ground up, your know how to build anything from a story to an Excel spreadsheet, whatever, you know the starting point and then you can make things happen. So probably that’s the answer to that question.

So what about you Crystal?

Crystal Hunt: For one day, I would like to go back to around 1866, which is when New Westminster was the capital of BC. But I think it would be really cool to see the city where I live now in its sort of historical element. And see the translation of what things looked like and how that’s all changed.

I think that would be a really cool day to just explore the neighborhood and see into the past of that, I think would be really interesting. So that would be my one-day choice. My one-year choice, I would love to go back to Jane Austin, England and hang out in drawing rooms, go to a ball. Like all of those things I think would be super fun.

So you know, that would be great. Of course I would need to go back as a wealthy lady. I, yeah, I don’t so much want to deal with all of the everyday stuff, but I think it would be a fascinating year to be in society and see what that was like, as long as I could get the heck out at the end of that year, it’s not a time I think I would have done necessarily very well in, but I think it would be a very interesting experience and it would be really great for context of a lot of the books that I love are during that period. It would just be fun to see that world come to life and see what it was like to live there.

Okay. So.

Michele Amitrani: Now, if you have anything else to say Crystal, because if you do, please make sure you do.

Crystal Hunt: No, I think all I want to say is like the next time we want to live in is 2021. We’re going to spend a year there and it’s going to be amazing. And you guys are going to join us and we’re going to have a lot of fun with that.

So this is your invitation, if you do find the podcast helpful we have funded it, the production costs for this entire year, from our own pockets, because we felt very passionate about doing the project and experimenting with things and having some fun that said we do have a by us a coffee button on the strategic authorpreneur.com website.

If you have found our episodes helpful, if you are in a position where you are able to kick in a little bit to words are ongoing costs of hosting and transcription and all of those things, that would be amazing. And we would be grateful from the bottom of our hearts. We won’t actually spend that money on coffee cause neither of us drink coffee, it’ll go towards podcasts expenses, and we will regroup and we’re really looking forward to seeing you on the other side in 2021

Michele Amitrani: Equally important. If you are not subscribed to our newsletter after so many episodes and so many sapping love that we gave you, please consider doing so, the address you know it, is www.strategicauthorpreneur.com, but that’s basically the best way for you to get in touch with the both of us. Again, I want to join Crystal in wishing a great 2021 to all of us. And it was a really a fun ride and you can see it from the happiness in our face. And I look forward and I’m sure Crystal, so look forward to see you next year. So until next year. Bye.

Crystal Hunt: Bye.